Wednesday, September 16, 2009
Springboard for Discussion: My Papa's Waltz & The Ruined Maid
1. Have you been in a situation in which your parents think what they are doing to you is fun while you don't feel that way at all? (My Papa's Waltz)
2. Do you agree that the problem of prostitution is exclusively economic? (The Ruined Maid)
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intan
11409012
1.no,because my father is not a drunken so I've never been in that situation because my father is a serious person
2.absolutely i will say NO at all....because although we rich and we have many properties of life but we got it by do the prostitution and dirty way we will not get the real pleasure of how difficult to get money
Yenny
11409013
1.I think NO...
because I think my father is a kind man and never forces me to do something that I don't like
2.NO...
prostitution is a crime and shameful,so it's included in a prohibited thing,also disgusting right to get money by that dirty way,and also God doesn't allow it(prostitution).
* Cynthia ( 11490923 ) *
1.Yes, I have been in that kind of situation. There ever once, I was so nervous sitting in the waiting room for my royal examination in vocal. When I am nervous, I usually don't like to be disturbed. I prefer to zipped my mouth and assure my self. However, my mom thought that she need to cheer me up so I won;t be nervous. She tried to make me laugh by humorous story and gave me magazines. But as I said, I became annoyed with tose things and told her to stop making me laugh.
2. Yes I agree, the major cause of prostitution is the economic problem. Like in "The Ruined Maid", Melia sold herself which called as prostitution and her appearance then became like a lady.
even though economic problem dominate the cause of prostitution, other problem also can be the causes; such as the woman's own will,etc.
Grace Patricia
11409034
1. Well, fortunately I never been in that situation, because my father almost never talk to me except we have some problem that we must to share. My father is a serious man so he rarely make any joke. My dad always talk about economy, politic sometimes he make funny joke and that's really funny I think.
2.I agree if prostitution related with economy, but it's not exclusively. There are some reasons to do it. If you are rich and well-educated, you will not be prostitute. Although you are poor if you have prestigious I guarantee that you will not do it. You will be a thing if you do that. Your life will not be valuable although you are rich. The major problem is about the quality of yourself. You can be rich in 'heart' than in material.
1. Yes, I have been in that kind of situation. At that time, I joined X'mas piano competition at Somerset Hotel. The participants might use any costume related to X'mas. I refused when my mother wanted to buy me a rabbit costume for me. But, later I was forced to wear them. My mom said that it looked cute and funny on me. I said that it was very..very...ridiculous. Finally, I wore that costume with murmured.
2.I think the most problem of prostitution is economic. However, I really can not tolerate any reason for prostitution even economic matter because God will always give way to all his people who have tried.
Actually, I think their real problem is not economic. Most of them just want to be more glamour, greater than others quickly...yet, they do it in wrong way.
Jesslyn. S
11409016
Yuliani Meiling T
class A
11409002
1.Yes..
sometimes I and my parents went to boring party or something meeting with old parents.... I dislike to came, but my parents said "You must go..!!"
I don't have friend in there, so I dislike to came....
I just silent and saw my parents talk with many people....
2.Not all, because many people do prostitution just for fun, no for get money.....
Victor Samuel K.
114 09 006
1. Yes, I have been in that kind of situation. One day, my mother bought me some trousers in the outlet. Actually, I didn't like them but my mother forced me to wear them to attend my friend's party, and then I wore them. Actually, my mother knew that some trousers not suitable to me, but she said to me that "it's good, you looked great" and ……. And then I went to my friend's party with wore them. And then one of my friends told to me that my appearance like "Mr. Bean". After that, I called my mother with my cellular phone and told to her about my story angrily, but she laughed noisily and loudly after listening to my story.
2. I agree if the economic problem is one of many other factors. I think that the prostitution happens is caused by many factors, like the doer characters, the doer faith, feels lonely or etc, not only the economic problem. Some of the high class people(rich people) have been doing the prostitution, like businessmen, government officers, or “tante girang”(in English)??.
1. Yes, I have. My parents bought me a keyboard and hired a private teacher just because they saw me looking at a music book. They thought that I like music and did what they think is best without even asking me what i want.
2. Yes. In my opinion if you are wealthy and or well educated the job you seek will not be in the fields of prostitution. In my opinion the only reason a person would be in that field is because they have no other choice, maybe they didnt have any skill and nobody would hire them.
Deborah Irwanto
11409052
1. Fortunately, I have never been in that situation because my parents always do the things that suitable for all of the family members.
2. Yes, I agree. There are many young girls, especially from villages, who want to come to the downtown to make their economic condition better. In addition, related to that kind of situation, the most appropriate bussiness to bring it into reality as soon as possible is prostitution. Thus, the problem of prostitution always exclusively economic.
1. Yes, I've ever been in that situation. At that time, I was sick and I felt very bad, and my father made a joke that maybe I was sick because I was lazy and didn't want to go to school. He laughed and I was just keep silent, and I told him that I didn't lie him. I was really sick and it wasn't because I'm too lazy to go to school.
2. Yes, I agree that one of the reason of prostitution is economic problem. Though it's a dirty way, but people can get money easily, they don't have to work hard all day long to get money. Besides, they can get more money than people who work hard and stay in good way.
Amanda
11409005
1. NO,because my parents know me....
they never coerce me to do something that i don't like. they always give me a choice.
2. yes i agree.
every problem of prostitution is exclusively economic becauase they need money. they will do all the thing although it is a bad way
Henky 11409021
1. No, I guess I've never been in a situation like what is in My Papa's Waltz.
2. Yes, I believe it's all because of the economical matter. As I discovered the background story of the writing of this poem, I just knew it's based on the real situation that ever existed in Victorian era. Many girls who couldn't survive in their hard situation as labor or servants finally chose to "step up" their life as a prostitute in order to achieve the respect, wealth, and dignity as high class women. But then, it's becoming a little bit irony as they finally found that they were not that happy as their were living their comfortable life as a prostitute.
Deviany S.A (11409028)
1. I think I'm never in that situation, because I won't do something that I don't want. For example, my parents told me to take interior design, but I refused and told them to let me choose what I like.
2. I agree that the problem of prostitution is exclusively economic, because the prostitutes want to get a lot of money briefly without doing hardwork.
1.
i think no...
because my parents is seriously person. and they are kindness.
2.
No,because the prostitution have many factors problem. no just because economic. may be the example from the factors are family problem, social problem, or privacy problem in your selve, and many more..
so i think no just economic but because meny factors in this life...
thx sir for your attention...
GBU
1.emmm,i think never because my parents give me freedom to do something but inside natural limit..
2. yes,i agree but not all..
because a lot of from them have an adequate economic but if their live in rich people surroundings they can feel want more and more to be more glamour than usual..so they also can feel not satisfied with their live and try to get money quickly
1. Yes. Especially while choosing school. They thought they did it for my own good, but they almost ignored my own feeling and opinion..
2. Yes. Peoples have the rights to decide their own life...
Prayogo Edward (114.09.038)
Alfa sara
11409043
1.no,my parents are good. so they are never do something make me hurt. they are kind. and my father can't dance like poem My Papa's Waltz so I've never been in that situation.
2.Acctualy i don't agree
but in some people think it helpful they(prostituion) to have a lot of money. but they don't think what will happen while they always do that. it can broke their future and healthy. so,this not a exclusive job although can give a lot of money.
1. I never be in a situation like that. because my parents always ask me first before to know what I feel. I think I'm lucky to be in my family because many of my friends are in that kind of situation.
2. no, I don't agree with that. in my opinion, there are many good ways to get money without prostitution. because if we were sick by prostitution we would use much money to cure ourselves from our illness. I think we would lose much money, so it would be good if we stayed away from prostitution.
Silvania Krisna
11409046
1. Yes, sometimes..
But my father wouldn't do something that will be make me really angry. So, if he makes a joke, but I'm not even laugh, then he will stop to talk.
2. Yes, I agree..
For some people, they will do something like that, base from economic.. They want to get a lot of money, but with an easy way, to sell their own self..
1. no, i haven't. if I don't like something, I will say it to my parent and they will understand, and won't force me to do it.
2. yes, I do, because woman won't do that if they don't force by the situation, like economic problem. but, the woman who will do this, just woman that don't have well education. if she get well education, I think she will do anything, except prostitute, in way to get money.
felicia (11409019)
Jessica
11409024
1.No,I haven’t. Because my parents never force me to do what they want,they always listen to my opinion.
2.Yes,because prostitution is the fastest way to get money to fulfill the daily needs.
1. No because, my father don't like drink. So, he never do that to me.
2. Not only at economic. Usually people do that because of have many problems or just have fun.
Wida
11409015
Levina (11409022)
1. I do not think so. Fortunately, my parents care about what I feel. They never force me to do something I dislike. Instead, they try to support me in stuffs I want.
2. I could not agree more. Most probably, economic is the typical reason for a girl to sell herself although economic itself is not that clear to define. In term of economic, I can think of 2 situations. First of all, those who are really really poor that they can hardly fulfill their primary needs. Money earned by people from this group is usually spent for urgent matter such as parents' illness. The second group consists of those who live adequately, but still yearn for more. Money earned by this group is usually spent for theirselves, to boost their appearances or prestige.
However, there is another reason for prostitution to occur. It is because the lack of education. Education is really important to help people reach decent careers to afford their needs, and it is crucial to alert small villages' women that prostitution is not an instant way to become rich.
1. No because my father is not a drunken and he loves me very much so I have never been in that situation. My father is very patient to his family.
2. Yes I agree. Because now the cause of the prostitution like "The Ruined Maid" is economic problem. But if me, I will never sold myself to get money like that. I still believe My God don't want me to be like that.
Melissa Elaine / 11409010
1. No because my father is not a drunken so I have never been like that situation because my father is a patient person to all his family.
2. No!
Because if we see now so many prostitution happened because economic trouble like in "THE RUINED MAID" but I believe my God Don't want me to be like that at all.
MELISSA ELAINE/11409010
1. Have you been in a situation in which your parents think what they are doing to you is fun while you don't feel that way at all? (My Papa's Waltz)
Yes, when I had lots of home works from my school and my parents asked me to karaoke at late night so, I said I need to take a rest. However, they brought my brother and I to karaoke and we was drinking together, dancing, and singing. I was too tired and I thought I am going to be death. My parents thought I would enjoy with it even I already too tired, but that is not true. My voice became monsters voice. However, they enjoyed with my younger brother and my dancing and singing.
2. Do you agree that the problem of prostitution is exclusively economic? (The Ruined Maid)
Yes, I agree that the problem of prostitution is that it is exclusively economic. Prostitution industry is available in every country in this world, and It happens because there is always the consumers who need prostitution service, therefore there is always the flowing of money in this industry, big money.
Ashley JEONG-HYEON KIM
(11408043)
1. Yes, sometimes my father do the things that seem rude for me. I know he loves to know everything about his son's secret and one time he has already known the girl whom I loved. I had tried to keep it, but unfortunately my brother did not purposely speak out the girl's name. (sleep of tongue) Let say the girl name is Bunga. After he knew that, he intentionally provoked me in from of my siblings and my mother. He tried to tease me such fun, but for me what he had done is harsh, and I just spoke nothing because I am shy. Of course they still teased me after that.
2. I do not agree. Because the problem of prostitution is not only caused by poverty, but the reason behind prostitute is moral standard that last until now. If female still hold unto the principle of virginity, I certain that they will avoid do such thing in order to be still virgin. Although Even they have to be a slave, they will be. But if sex become not taboo anymore and the society doing sex as the same as eating meal, the women will easily prostitute themselves.
Sari Mustika R
11409025
1. Have you been in a situation in which your parents think what they are doing to you is fun while you don't feel that way at all? (My Papa's Waltz)
Yes, I have. Usually, it happens when my parents are talking with my uncles and my aunts about my bad habit or something embarassing that i (accidentally) do. Perhaps they think its a funny story to tell, but i don't think so. I get even more annoyed when i try to stop them, they think i tease them to talk even more about my bad things.
2. Do you agree that the problem of prostitution is exclusively economic? (The Ruined Maid)
No, although the majority is economic. There are many other reasons. First is people's curiosity. They try it at first then get stuck there or even get addicted. Second is becoming modern. Some poeple think, if they don't do sex, they'll become "out of date". They do it to be considered as "modern" society. Third is the lack of care and love. They look for love at the wrong way. And once they try it, why they should let it go? They get the attention and the love, it gives them pleasure and they can get extra money. It seems that prostitution is a good and easy way
to get anything that they want.
Lili
11409029
1.I think No... Because my parents are understanding people, they respect that i've done, and they never force me to do something that i don't like
2.yes, i egree. I think the most problem of prostitution is economic. However, I can't accept any reason for prostitution even in economic. And sometimes in this case, many people do that prostitution just for fun and glamorous
Eirene.D
11409049
1.Fortunately, I haven't been in such of the situation. My daddy is a understannding one. He knows what I like to or don't . So, he never do something that actuallty, i don't want him do
2. I don't totally agree. Exactly, economics is one of the factor. Perhaps, in many case.yes. But, in some case it isn't the maijor factor. There are some another cause. I've ever red an article about this matter. It was a real story from an Australian girl. She become a porstitute not because of money but she has a " sex disorder" So, she has do the "thing" for many times a day. It was totally surpised me. And she said that some of her friends do the same things. It proved that is not about economic at all.
1. Yes, I have. Sometimes my father mocks me just for fun. But it hurts me too and I just let it go.
2. It's quite "yes". A poor young woman/girl thinks that her life in her poor family isn't comfortable and she thinks to do something to make the family will be comfortable as soon as possible. Of course because she doesn't well-educated, she thinks that prostitution is a better way.
1.No, I haven't.
My parents have never forced me for their fun.
They sometimes force me to do something but it's for my goodness.
2.No, I don't.
Economic is the main problem but it's not only that. There are many problems that can be causes, one of them is for having fun (there are many people who do prostitution because they are addicted to sex although they're rich).
Lordna
11409036
1. I did not remember but there is a situation when I felt really disturbed by my family. My aunt in my 18 birthday when she said happy birthday she asked me, although it was by phone but I know it was in front of our family members, about my behaviour before i sleep that I did until I past the elementary I always suck on my finger and I could hear they started talking about that. and it made me very annoyed because it was my 18 birthday and they still thought that I am a kid.
2. some people may do prostitution because of money. but i thought even that person rich they still can do the prostitution. for getting a satisfaction in sex. and in ruined maid case I found out that she did prostitution to have a deserve life that she wanted, and actually it still because of money because when she got rich the people will confess her.
1.Yes, I've been in a situation like that. It was when my mother insisted me to wear a clothes that I really don't like to wear in a party. She told me if I didn't wear that not-so-my-type clothes, she wouldn't take me on the party and left me at home. So, I decided to go to the party with anger while my mother felt satisfied after insisted me to wear the clothes.
2.Yes. The economic is the dominant reason for the prostitution, but there is also another reason such as the woman's choice.
Kesetiaan
11409041
1. No, I haven't, because my parents always make me happy.
2.Yes, I agree, because If they have another job and it earns money, they will not become prostitution. They need money to survive.
1. Yes, I have. I was forced to chores with hopes that i can make my parents happy.
2. No, I dont. Because in my opinion its also about dignity.
Antonia Odilia
11409045
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