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Monday, October 5, 2009

Springboard for Discussion: "One Perfect Rose" & "A Noiseless Patient Spider"




1. Which one do you prefer to get from your beloved in your birthday: a symbolic gift or a useful one? (One Perfect Rose)

2. Could you provide a more personal symbol of your soul than a spider? Explain. (A Noiseless Patient Spider)


38 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sari Mustika R.
11409025


1. Which one do you prefer to get from your beloved in your birthday: a symbolic gift or a useful one? (One Perfect Rose)
Well, since i'm a "keeper things" person, i'll keep anything that i get, although maybe for some poeple it's just a rubbish. I'll take anything they give, but I prefer a symbolic but useful one. I think it'll be a nostalgic memories to remember when we see a that gift whether it's symbolic or useful. It will be better if i got both useful and symbolic gift.


2. Could you provide a more personal symbol of your soul than a spider? Explain. (A Noiseless Patient Spider)
I'm like a book, a novel. You can't just guess me from the outside look. Although maybe you have read the title, it doesn't mean that you can really understand the story. You can just understand me just by the usual thing that i've said about myself, because perhaps I just said what you want or expect to hear. Like a novel, you have to read me page to page, until you have finish reading the book, than perhaps you can get who i really am.

Anonymous said...

Amanda-11409005

1. I prefer the symbolic one because I like something that has a 'meaning' on it, especially, for my birthday, so that I can remember that gift and why the gift is being given to me someday in the future.

2. I think, I'm like puzzle. You can't understand me if they just know a little about me. You have to know me for a long time and know a lot about me, so that you can know my true personality. Just like puzzle, if you don't have all of the pieces, you won't know what kind of picture that can be made from that puzzle pieces.

Cynthia S said...

Cynthia - 11409023

1. actually, I think useful gifts are more precious than just symbolic ones.. but somehow,I prefer a symbolic gift..Symbolic gift is always beautiful for me because it will remain me to memories of me n my beloved..For me,a symbolic gift deserves to be kept forever..the useful ones will only used until its end..

2. I will symbolize myself as the piano..
Piano mostly coloured as white n black,showing that I might looked a silence n bored..but once the piano play,it will produce very beautiful sound,rich melody and could change the listener mood..

Anonymous said...

Yuliani MeiLing T
11409002
class A

1. Useful one, because I like people give me something important which can remember. I like people give to me by action, not symbol... I more appreciation people with their work.. But if I can get both of them... Why not???

2.Chameleon...
I'm a moody person...
my moody can change at intervals hour, because the situation support to me, like the situation too...
I can be very cheerful person and same time can be silent person....
Sometimes people around said I'm a unique person...

Eka J Saimima (11409037) said...

1. I prefer a symbolic gift that useful. I like something symbolic but if i just use it as display, i think it means nothing. But if i get something useful but doesn't symbolize what the giver thinks, it also doesn't mean anything. So, I can use the thing and remember what this thing symbolize too.

2. I symbolize myself as "the sea". The color of the sea gives calmness for others. Besides that, "sea" is mystery. You won't know the depth until you dive in it.

Lielie said...

Lili
11409029

1.Well, i prefer chose the symbolic gift one. Because symbolic gift deserves to be keep forever. And when i see it, it can remember me for my beloved.
2.i think i like a cubic's cube. Sometimes complicated very much, but in other time it can be match. it's like a puzzle that must to solve it. Sometimes i can be fun, but sometimes people curious to me.

Anonymous said...

Eirene.D
11409049

1.A symbolic gift. For me, a useful things can given to us by every one. But, for a symbolic thing is just from someone who loves us trully and deeper. Because, a symbolic one, usually has a "meaning" inside and It is so interesting that I can know what is. It so romantic for me.
2. Perhaps, I will symbolize my soul with water and a salt. I'm a person who like to refresh others.By, supporting, caring, and helping others. Especially, someone who is burdened some. So, He/she will feel helped and can be motivated to finished her/his problem and continue his/her life .Same as water that always gives us a "freshness".
Salt
There are alot of advantanges of salt. One is, give our meal taste. Meal will never taste good without salt.So, I always try myself to be the"taste". By, giving good influence and can affect others life in a good way. In order to makes their life better.

Anonymous said...

1. Actually, symbolic gift is more valuable...but, it's okay if I get either the symbolic or the useful one. The most important thing is the intention of the giver. It's enough for me when someone gives me something sincerely.

2. I symbolize myself as a star.It always shines and gives light in the darkness.
I'm a cheerful person. I like talking and always happy all the time and never sad. I always enjoy all the things that happened to me. I like to cheer on all my friends who are sad and desperate.

Jesslyn Susilo
11409016

Henky k / 11409021 said...

1. I prefer useful one.Because it can be useful in my life.And when i use that things,I can remember that person.
2. I think i like a wheel.I like rotate everywhere free and move from one place to another place.

Levina said...

Levina D.
11409022

1. A symbolic one probably. There're a lot to be interpreted by symbolic stuffs. Like if I get the useful one, I might end up spending it until it runs out, or I'll probably break it in sense I use it too often~ lol symbolic, on the other hand, can be kept forever since it can't be used anyway. It is like symbol. We can see meanings beyond the literal ones~ :)
Besides, when will you see a man in a movie who give his lover a fountain pen (for example) rather than a bucket of rose? So in a more simplified word, symbolic gift is more romantic xD

2. I think I resemble my computer's desktop wall. I know it sounds funny, but it's really me xD making a wallpaper needs effort, and most of people do not see that. I'm like that, more or less. I want to do something useful for other people, but I don't want to be seen or praised for that :) I love to please people.

VICTOR said...

VICTOR SAMUEL K
11409006
CLASS A...

1. I prefer the symbolic one, because the symbolic gift has a intimate meaning and it can always remembers me at the special people in my life.

2. I provide my personal like a goose, because a goose always faithful with its match. The goose never let its match alone. The goose always accompanies with its match and they always take care with their match and their children. The goose protects its children alternately. They can cooperate with their match.

Anonymous said...

Wida Felim Gunawan
11409015

1. I prefer the useful one. Because with the useful things, i can use it and remember it in my life.

2. I'm like as piano. It will be better if it's be played. Because without playing, the piano will be as decorating only. The piano also has black and white colour. Black as my fault and white as my good activity. And friends and family as the player. With friends, they will colored my activity better and they can give me advice if i do fault at my life.

Jessica Puspa said...

1.I prefer to get a useful one from my beloved in my birthday. Because it can be useful to accompany me to do all my activities. Everytime when I hold it,I always remember him/her,so it can increase my love to him/her.
2.I symbolize myself as a piglet,because my favorite colour is pink,I also love sleeping. In one day,my time to sleep is longer than to work. The last,my cheek is so chubby like a piglet.

Juwita said...

1. i prefer a useful one,because i can use it to support my daily activities.
2. if i symbolize my personality i would like to be a pillow. Because it can be a comfortable thing for other peoples who are tired. the other reason, one of my favorite hobbies is sleeping.

Anonymous said...

Grace PAtricia
11409034

1. I prefer to get useful things from my beloved. If he gives me a symbolic gift, I will return it back to him. I want to let him to give me something that I can use and I also can remember him from the things that he gives to me. He has to talk less but do more.

2.The symbol of myself is water. I have no problem in my life, jut let it go. Water always going through never see the past. That is my life. You have to dive into water to know how deep it is. You can not know who I am before you make a long friendship with me.

Anonymous said...

Silvania Krisna
11409046

1. I think I prefer a symbolic gift. It must be has a lot of meaning on it when my beloved give it to me. But for the useful one, I think I can buy it by myself if I want and if I need it, so it just like a usual thing, But different with a symbolic gift, it full of memories I think.

2. I symbolize my soul as a fire. It can make you feel warm if you get close to it, but it also can burn you if you are not careful. I'm a patient person, but I'm also can be a temperament person depend on situation.

Edward - 黄中山 - エドアード - プラヨゴ said...

Prayogo Edward (114.09.038)
1. Some people think a symbolic gift will be better because it has deeper meaning inside it. But after we receive, see, understand the meaning, what else can we do with the gift?? Nothing but keeping it inside the board or put it on the table because we're afraid to break it or lose it. But the useful one is something we can use in our daily life. Something useful. Not only to put in the board. Anyway, I prefer the useful but has a special meaning (symbolic) too.

2. I'm a mask. U can see my outer side but the inside one is a secret until I myself reveal it. Mystery, secret, unpredictable: it's me..

Anonymous said...

1.I prefer to receive a symbolic gift, because I want to know what the real meaning of the gift is. In the case of the poem, i would prefer the rose, I'm sure the limousine is very nice, but rose symbolize beauty and every girl wants to be beautiful.

2. I symbolize myself as a book. You can only judge a book after reading it, and not by looking at the cover. A book may have a pretty cover but the content may or may not be as such; and it works both ways. So, people may judge me by my appearance but they wont know anything about me...they have to get to know me, only then they will know who i really am.

11409052
Deborah I.

Anonymous said...

1. I prefer the symbolic one because I like something which is has a "meaning" on it because I can remember my friends , but I will keep anything present from my friends to me because I appreciate all of my friends give for me.

2. I likes to writing some novel so I think, I'm like a book or novel. You can't just guess somebody from the outside look, although you know the title but you should read page to page so you can know that this story bad or good. If someone want to know me, first, they should know my characteristic than they won't negative thingking of me.

Melissa Elaine
11409010

Melissa Elaine 11409010 said...

1. I prefer the symbolic one because I like something which is has a "meaning" on it because I can remember my friends , but I will keep anything present from my friends to me because I appreciate all of my friends give for me.

2. I likes to writing some novel so I think, I'm like a book or novel. You can't just guess somebody from the outside look, although you know the title but you should read page to page so you can know that this story bad or good. If someone want to know me, first, they should know my characteristic than they won't negative thingking of me.

Melissa Elaine
11409010

Linda (11409001) said...

1.Actually if I want to get gift in my birthday party, I prefer a useful one because when I use it, it can remind me to the person who gave it to me, I can appreciate it beside the gift has benefit for me.
But if the giver is my lover, I will choose a symbolic one because I think the symbolic one has deeper meaning so it's like romantic thing for me.
2.I symbolize my self as an origami paper.
An origami paper is fold by the creation so it'll be shaped depends on the creation.
It is same with my self in God's hands, He is my creator. My life is a process to be as God's will. In my life, if I obey Him, I'll be good but if I don't I'll be bad.

Ashley said...

1. A symbolic gift, because it will be unique gift to me. And I can feel what they think of me or how much they care of me. For example, if my friend gives me scrap book about our pictures I cannot use that book for taking a bath, doing assignment or exercising. However, it is symbolic of our friendship, it will remind of me our friend also, it makes me happier that get useful gift.

2. The season? Because, in the spring everything begin to open or live. Flowers put forth buds, snack and bear wake up from their winter sleeping it is as like our born. When we were born we also begin to live, spring is like the starting point of human life. In the summer, the weather is too hot, but everything is active lots of bugs, lots of animals can live in summer. It is as like climax of human life. In the fall, the weather makes us lonely. Not too hot, not too cold. Before move to winter season everything prepare to leave or death in fall. It is like middle age of human life. In the winter, the weather is too cold, so most of plants are death. Many animals winter sleep at deep the earth. It is like the end of human’s life.

KIM JEONG-HYEON (Ashley) 11408043

Anonymous said...

Alfa sara
11409043

1.I prefer the useful gift.

2. i symbolize myself like elephant, because i'm strong and don't give up easily.

Anonymous said...

Deviany S.A (11409028)

1. I think useful gift is better than symbolic gift. Because I can use it anytime, and I can remember when he gave me the gift.

2. I symbolize myself as bonsai tree (Japanese small tree). Because my body is short just like a bonsai, and I feel I am as precious as bonsai tree.

Delviana (11409031) said...

1. I prefer to get the useful one. By using it, the person who gave the gift will somehow know that I really appreciate his or her gift.

2. I reflect myself as a ball. There will always be up and down during my life, and I will never let sorrow bring me down easily. That is why I always keep struggling like a ball which always bounces even if it falls.

Fenny/11409027 said...

1.i think a useful one because if useful I can use it everytime and everywhere..and if I look the gift again it's become symbolic because I can remember the moment when he gave me the gift.

2. I symbolize my self like flower because i'm cheerful person and i like to joke around.
but,sometimes i can become a shy girl same with a faded flower

Dinda Mutiara_11409017 said...

I prefer to get a symbolic gift. It's because I love a person who says what is in his heart by giving me something that symbolizes it. If I got a useful one, it menas that won't be interesting anymore. I love the implicit meaning of something that given to me by anybody.

I 'm like a bird. I must fly to search some foods for myself and fly to avoid the winter. I try to look for another place that is more suitable for me. It's just like me who have to go and find the most suitable environment for me. Furthermore, I could find some new friends while I was flying or resting in the branches for a while. I like to sing, and that's why I also choose bird to symbolizes myself

Anonymous said...

Lordna
11409036

1. actually in my own experience I prefer to get a symbolic gift. from that gift I can find out what is that person think about me. from that gift I know how is my image in people eyes. from a useful thing I only can find out that the person who give me this thing know what I need but maybe not exactly know who really I am.

2. if I want to describe my self in a symbol I can say that my personality can be seen in a dolphin. dolphin shown a happiness and the way you can enjoy your life. In my own self I may look like a dolpin. I'm a cheerful person, always try to enjoy my life even I know life is a big challenge every day. but like a dolphin I want to go through with a careness to people around me. and I also think that a dolphin is brave, because it face big ocean every day but it know how to life in society.

Anonymous said...

Lordna
11409036

1. actually in my own experience I prefer to get a symbolic gift. from that gift I can find out what is that person think about me. from that gift I know how is my image in people eyes. from a useful thing I only can find out that the person who give me this thing know what I need but maybe not exactly know who really I am.

2. if I want to describe my self in a symbol I can say that my personality can be seen in a dolphin. dolphin shown a happiness and the way you can enjoy your life. In my own self I may look like a dolpin. I'm a cheerful person, always try to enjoy my life even I know life is a big challenge every day. but like a dolphin I want to go through with a careness to people around me. and I also think that a dolphin is brave, because it face big ocean every day but it know how to life in society.

James Vivaldi-11409039 said...

I prefer a symbolic gift than a useful one. I think I'm a kind of romantic person. I would do the same thing for my girlfriend in her birthday, not only giving her a symbolic gift but also try giving her a useful one. As a result, she will remember it as a precious moment happened only once in her lifetime.

I symbolize myself as an umbrella. I would try to protect my beloved from anything which make her cries. As an umbrella exists to prevent the owner from the rain, I would be a perfect guard for her. And there is nothing that I would not do to make her fell my love. On the contrary, the umbrella will be soaked by the rain and shiver, so I am. I will let myself suffer for the sake of my beloved one.

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alyni tjunarwi - 11409026 said...

1. I prefer the symbolic one. I'm a melancholic person, who likes to think or flashback about sweet memories or something like that. that is why, I prefer the symbolic one because when I miss my beloved person, I can see that gift and smile because of the memories that left within that gift.

2. I am just like rainbow. it looks so beautiful and also colorful, it can make people feel happy or peaceful when they look at it. but the beauty of the rainbow can appear because of a hard and long process of the rain. That is the thing that makes rainbow can be so beautiful.
to achieve something or to be in a condition as what I expected, I have to experience a long process in order to make the perfect result.

Stephani Inesia. L - 11409018 said...

1.A useful thing is better than the symbolic one, because I can use that thing in daily life rather than the symbolic gift that MAY BE I can't understand what's the meaning of the gift.

2.I symbolize myself as a running horse that longing for a freedom.

Anonymous said...

1.I prefer useful gift because symbolic gift doesnt really have use and its just there for decoration and it shows that he is stingy
2.Yes, a dragon. because it is a full spirited animal and it is full of ambition.


Antonia Odilia
11409045

Anonymous said...

Intan Boedi D.
11409012

1. I prefer the useful one.. It's more necessary than sth that can't be used.
2. I symbolize my self as star because I will not care about sth that is not important for me and I will not bother anyone as long as they don't disturb me, but if they need my help then, I'll help them. I like to cheer up people in my side.

frederick 11409051 said...

1.useful one.. i always throw away things that is not useful or no longer useful for me..
2.i am a tiger.. strong man.. always think before doing something..

Anonymous said...

Yenny Wong
11409013

1. I prefer the useful one so that I can use it.
2. I symbolize my self as a flower. Just like a flower, it will dying if there is no one watered it, so the same with me I need someone to encourage to face every thing that happen in my life.

Regina T/ 11409035 said...

1. symbolic, because I can save it for along time.

2. I feel, I am a Lion...because I was born in July. So, the symbol of the zodiac in July is Lion.